Hi there, I'm looking to go fast, but I don't want to spend my energy in my legs, I prefer to be focused on the music and not the pain :) Does someone use this technic ? How long was it to master it ? Is a longboard mandatory for that ?
(If you send me to youtube, please forward a 5* video :) )
A long board is definitely not necessary. I learned Heel Toe in 1 afternoon (several hours). For me it was one of those things that I just needed to try over and over until the feeling/technique clicked. It is kind of like riding a bike.
On can understand the relation with bike. I keep falling then 😘 I think this technic can improve my speed for with few energy involved. I have to keep that energy for my mind the music itself (and not my body) Thanks for the advice, I’ll keep you in touch.
By the way, the upgrade for the iron cobra would be perfect Or maybe the new gears that may come out soon 🤩
Zitat von Giraffic im Beitrag #2A long board is definitely not necessary. I learned Heel Toe in 1 afternoon (several hours). For me it was one of those things that I just needed to try over and over until the feeling/technique clicked. It is kind of like riding a bike.
Congrats! Did you follow any particular instruction/introduction video or just figure it out yourself by trial and error? (Fell from a bike 20 years or so ago and didn't ride since then )
Darwin ftw right double pedal black, set up as strapdrive.
Oh cool, that topic became relevant for me recently. (I can do 160 bpm* singles kind of reliably, but the music my band does requires me to play up to 210 bpm, and since I did not manage to speed singles up to that in the current practice time I can manage to do, wich is 3 x 2 hours per week average plus band rehearsal, I need to take the shortcut)
Well, I can ride a bicycle, but as soon as I remove one hand from the steering bar, I fall, not to talk about riding free-hand. And don't try to send me into the street traffic, I provoke crashes with cars...
Meaning: I can do doubles alone. At 160 or 180 they sound like decent 16ths notes, at 210 they have a certain popcorn tendency, but that's not a problem as I think it will improve. As soon as I start to play 8th notes or something with my hands in addition, it all falls apart. And if I try playing some of our parts during a rehearsal (or to our music while practicing) it simply doesn't work at all.
Okay, it's just a bunch of weeks since I picked up heel-toe practice again for doing it seriously this time, and you cannot expect wonders in some weeks, but yeah... does anyone have any good ideas on how to train integration of doubles into playing the complete drumset?
Some advices, may or may not help anyone else, but maybe they are worth thinking about: - Try Flatfoot technique first (in a sense of the technique where you slam your heel into the ground in front of your footboard) - Then try again a bit of playing in a jazz-like, heel down manner, with only ankle rotation (maybe you did not do that for a long time since you started playing metal) - Try a buzzroll-like motion where you do doubles just out of the rebound from your drumhead - If you got all of them, you may combine them into heel-toe
- If you have bigger feet (45EU or 10US plus) and the floor is in your way to slamming your heel into the ground consider getting the heel raiser upgrade from Dennis. The low footboard, that is unique to the darwin, may look very sexy, but it is highly impractical for certain styles. Another way to get some air under your heels is to raise the whole pedal (including the bassdrum) with something like a wooden plate or similar.
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